My point about Griffey was not that he is not a good player. He's very talented, probably the most talented player of his generation. And he's having a great year for Cincinnati this year. But has he been the guy for them since he came there?

Griffey came to the Reds in 2000:
145 games, 40 HR, 118 RBI, .271 BA, .387 OBP

That's a great year. Note that his BA wasn't through the roof, but his OBP was still high because he draws a lot of walks. He also hit a ton of HR and had over 100 RBI. Sounds a lot like the guy PVFAN wants rid of so badly now.

But in '01, '02, '03', and '04 he played in 111, 70, 53, and 83 games, respectively. Teams didn't go into Cincinnati saying "we have to stop Griffey" because Griffey more than likely wasn't in the Reds lineup.
Griffey had a good year in '00, and in '05, and so far this year, but do you think the Reds would go after him again if they knew beforehand how much he would be injured? Doubt it.

Teams go into Cincinnati scared of Dunn. He's the guy teams know can hurt them bad because of his power. IMO Dunn is the superstar on that club now, not Griffey.